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Hadn’t thought of socialism like this before! Thanks for sharing!

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Very well explained. My understanding is that the exploitative robber barons of this age also would like to usher in socialism, but to take away people's agency, self-determination. Also, there's a book that states that toward the end, the USSR's greatest minds at the table ultimately had to admit they couldn't understand key ideas of Marx. Marx had his own blind-spots. It was a great betrayal in 1918 to dive head first into a system they didn't take the time to realize they couldn't fully comprehend, not even on a theoretical level. Forgot the name of the book. So the challenge now is to lift the blind spots and be clear eyed. Why, for example, precisely did these ideas run into major snags and miseries and real harm to human beings on a wide scale in the kibbutzim, which you will never read about?

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As China is showing, the only way to address climate change is for a socialist leaning state to invest in infrastructure and make an energy transition feasible.

The robber baron, rentier 1% of the Imperial west are making money out of neocolonialism and are opposed to any restrictions on the free market made by the 'state' which are seeking to limit environmental damage. The effects of the damage is mostly felt by the 99% and the colonised nations so it's easy to see why this should be so. But it will lead to the destruction of the 1% too.

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Jan 11Liked by Joe Mayall

Re : The Case for Economic Democracy. I was active in Students for Economic Democracy , the youth wing of Tom Hayden's Campaign for Economic Democracy at CSUN in 1979 and into 1980 , before I transferred colleges. Barack Obama was active with SED at Occidental College in the same time frame.

At the time I viewed the term, "economic democracy," as slippery . Why not just assert the need for democratic socialism, directly, using the "s," word, instead of that euphemism? https://www.amazon.com/Economic-Democracy-Challenge-Martin-Carnoy/dp/0873321626 . The two authors were policy wonks for the CED. Carnoy ran for Congress in 1984, in the district incorporating San Jose. When I chatted with a campaign volunteer for him in 1984, and remarked how I had just read another book by him, https://www.amazon.com/Political-Theory-Princeton-Legacy-Library/dp/0691612706/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=wIl98&content-id=amzn1.sym.cf86ec3a-68a6-43e9-8115-04171136930a&pf_rd_p=cf86ec3a-68a6-43e9-8115-04171136930a&pf_rd_r=142-7215326-5339844&pd_rd_wg=Ocqu5&pd_rd_r=356edcec-a369-4b2e-886e-55034ea1ff46&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk , just published as a very good neo-marxist analysis of the capitalist state, she looked at me like I was a member of the rabidly right-wing John Birch Society, heh. The other co-author, Derek Shearer , was an old friend of Bill Clinton's from the early 70's. Shearer back then had written for Ramparts , the leftist monthly. Clinton appointed him to be Ambassador to Finland. At the Congressional hearing he testified at, he was red-baited.

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Jul 24, 2023Liked by Joe Mayall

Love it! Thank you, Joe.

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